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December 30th, 2009
How to make twenty something bloggers work for you
Lately there have been a number of posts (#1, #2, #3) floating around in the twenty something blogger community about the awards and nominations the community offers in the past few weeks. The posts have revolved around how the awards are very important, how the voting is weird, how the community actually isn’t a community any more at all because it’s too big, and even about how the people who tend to win the awards are kind of boring and inane.
I wrote a post in the spring when this debate was ‘hot’ gently urging people to get more involved if they want to see results on their community involvement, and because I still stand by that sentiment I’ve been slow to respond to the swell of commentary on the community this time around. But the reality is, these comments really bother me. They seem to miss the point. So I though that maybe I should be more detailed when I talk about ‘community building’ and using 20SB as a jumping off point.
Just so we’re clear, my feelings on 20SB and the awards process are as follows:
– The idea that 20SB is an exclusive, cliquey place is largely the construct of people calling it those things. The people who are perceived as being inside an ‘in’ group don’t all talk on the phone gossiping and braid each others hair until the wee hours of the morning. These people have jobs, families, debt, relationships and sick relatives. They are dealing with life when they’re not online. You don’t actually know what’s in their e-mail accounts or in their hearts. Focus on yours. If you would like to have more open, fun online friendships focus on that. You can control that.
– The idea that 20SB is a vast, sprawling, unknowable place teeming with amazing blogs just waiting to be discovered is (in my opinion) also a construct of the people who are saying those things. There are a ton of profiles on twenty something bloggers, but I would guess that there are very few who are active in the community. Fewer still who care about this debate. I can’t count the number of blogs I’ve stopped following because they’ve randomly dropped off the face of the earth, never to be heard from again. I can’t count the number of blogs I’ve ended up moving away from because they only talk about that person’s day to day existence and never make the leap to self reflection or narrative. We all have different tastes in what we like to read, but the reality is that finding blogs of any style that have authors who will keep writing beyond the next year, or even who will respond to e-mail is really hard a lot of the time. This isn’t a conspiracy of the elite, it’s just that we’re all in different places.
– The idea that being named blogger of the month or winning an award will ramp your blog traffic through the roof is something that people who want to win these internal awards believe. There are certainly people who will add you to their blogroll, but your subscriber numbers really won’t go through the roof in a way that they wouldn’t if you just kept writing well on a consistent basis. They provide a nice bump, but that’s all.
That’s great but how can I make 20SB, you know, do stuff for me?
– Look at your blog before you look at 20SB. Does the design really convey who you are? If you receive all of your comments during the work day is your design one that can be looked at on a work computer without it screaming “I’m not working!”? What do you think you’re writing about, and what are you actually writing about? Go back to the last month of your blog and write out the general idea of each post you wrote- does this reflect your life? What you want your blog to be about? If you’re a growing blog most people have just found you, so making sure you’re reflecting who you are with your posts is important.
– Check out your 20SB profile. If you’re using 20SB as a way to get people to make the leap to your blog, does your profile look anything like your blog? Is your bio up to date? Do you provide visible links to your blog and other social media?
– Narrowcast yourself. Only 105 people nominated others in the bootlegger awards in a community of nearly 10k. Do those numbers shock you? You should be relieved. This means that spending hours on the community, commenting on endless random profiles, and sinking an incredible amount of time into something that’s not blogging won’t help you to efficiently find engaged readers. You just need to find the super users and befriend them. Isn’t that more manageable? You can 20SB super users a number of ways, three of which are:
1. By going to the monthly nominations threads and clicking through to all of the people’s blogs who are interested enough in the community to vouch for someone.
2. You can look for people who are routinely starting and answering forum threads.
3. You can look at people who are on the community admin team.
When you’re looking for blogs to not just read, but to be engaged with, you want to find someone who will take action- someone who will find out who you are, visit your blog, and maybe even strike up a conversation. Targeting people who are already engaged in a participatory action is a way to target your efforts.
– Make friends, don’t wait for friends. Send one e-mail a week to someone whose blog you like. Find a blog you really enjoy and check out who else likes that blog- again, this targets people who are engaged. Read blogrolls, people tend to list their friends and they can help you to ‘see’ social groups. Only comment on as many blogs as you can thoughtfully respond to.
– Practice radical caring. Has a community member gone through something really hard and needs support? Draw attention to it in the 20SB forums or on your blog. Stop skimming posts. Unsubscribe from the blogs you aren’t invested in, and really put time in with people you enjoy. Respond to people- if someone new comments on your blog send them a one line e-mail, @reply people on twitter, and if someone makes you think, make the jump from commenting to e-mailing. Then take a break from putting energy out and in a few weeks, start up again. Very few people do these things. By really listening, and really responding you will stand out.
– Realize this is only one tool. If you’re in your twenties, 20SB is a great jumping off point for finding people who are in your demographic and who might be interested in what you’re doing. A better tool is putting your time into people who make you roar with laughter, cry when their hearts break, and cheer their successes. For me 20SB is one way of many to find those people.
I want to be really clear that I don’t feel targeted by any of the posts that have been written, and my feelings have not been hurt by any of you. I truly understand how it can feel like everyone is included but you. In the face of that I really wanted to put something practical and hands on out there about this stuff. These are some things that have worked for me, but I think about these things without meaning to and doing them is just natural. What works for you might be totally different.
I’m just terribly fond of this little (big) community and have had a great experience in it, so I hope that spelling out how I’ve made that happen might help others wanting a more engaged experience in their blogs and in their community.
Great post. Your advice is really good about the whole 20sb awards thingy. I’ve never bothered about them but guess I’ll take a look about it too.
.-= John´s last blog ..Taking Amazing Earth Photos From Space at $750 =-.
I’ve never commented before, but wanted to speak up and say thank you for this post. I was feeling really frustrated earlier this week and ended up writing about how I thought the whole 20sb awards thing was bs.
After reading what you had to say, I’ll admit there are still things about it that rub me the wrong way, BUT I definitely value everything you’ve said here. I think that anyone who was hoping to be and would complain about not being nominated, everything you say here is important and useful and honest. Really, really honest and good advice. I couldn’t agree with you more! I hope that it helps all the smaller blogs or the newbies who would like to be better known! :)
Untill now I never heard of this community. Maybe this is because I`m from Germany? Maybe.
But I really liket it to read your words. Your writening style is fantastic in my eyes.
I will take on a read on your site. And maybe I will also have a loook on this community.
Greetings.
.-= Nismion´s last blog ..Robin Hood – Neuer Einzug in die Kinos =-.
okay i am just catching up on all of this and kyla this is an amazing post and i don’t think it could have been said any better. nicely done.
.-= katelin´s last blog ..Hollywood adorableness, more Twilight interviews and a sparkly dress. =-.
one more reason i <3 your blog :-) great post, kyla!
.-= Libby´s last blog ..Picture This =-.
Oh, Kyla, you said everything I could have ever possibly wanted to say and more.
You’re awesome. You know that, right?
.-= E.P.´s last blog ..Twenty ten =-.
Wait, so does this mean LiLu and I should stop braiding each others hair? It’s really hard to get it even sometimes, though!
Kidding– I think you hit the nail on the head. 20sb can be a great jumping off point for any blogger. it’s how I found a lot of the blogs I’m still addicted to.
.-= Maxie´s last blog ..I will never top my title from two days ago, so why do I even try? =-.
I really like how you took such a positive, hands-on approach in writing this post, in the light of the recent negativity swirling about online regarding 20sb and the awards. Very awesome.
(Happy! 2010.)
.-= Kerri Anne´s last blog ..The Number One Reason I Love Used Books =-.
I have been a member of 20sb for quite a while but never really got involved in it until I started submitting my bootlegger nominees. Thanks for this great post!!!
.-= Stefanie´s last blog ..Saying good-bye instead of welcoming another year. =-.
I’m relatively new to 20sb and I have found that what you wrote is exactly right. It’s not an overwhelming place to be if you put a little effort into it. It takes a bit of time and trial & error to find the blogs that suit you best, but it’s worth it.
.-= Kathleen´s last blog ..Year In Review: 2009 =-.
this post is very helpful.
happy new year.
xx
This was a very thorough and helpful post. Perfect timing too as I’m slowly trying to become more involved on 20sb. I never really thought of it as “cliquey”, but there was never a sense of community. Now I’m realizing that’s largely my fault because if I can’t reach out to other people, how can I expect them to do the same to me?
I’m also very happy I waited so long before commenting, because there’s been some equally great ideas brought up by other people as well.
.-= Mandy´s last blog ..Thoughts for Brandy =-.
Well said!
On a completely unrelated note – I adore the pants off your re-design. ADORE! PANTSLESS!!
.-= Andrea´s last blog ..The One About The Holidays =-.
Massive high five. You are lovely- here and always.
.-= nicoleantoinette´s last blog ..google maps, frosting, and oh yeah i have an apartment in san francisco and it’s so cute and and and fuck me i love the universe =-.
GREAT post.
What’s been interesting about 20SB is watching it grow. I’ve never been a featured blogger or anything, but I think I was member #80, back when they used to show you what number you were.
I think sometimes it’s hard for everyone to escape that high school mindset of the haves and the have-nots. Those who don’t have cry foul, and those who do sometimes flaunt that popularity around. It’s normal. It’s expected.
What makes me sad about that stuff, though, is how I think those people lose out on what makes 20SB such a special community.
Blogging, while a rather narcissistic pursuit in its own right, is about finding your voice and connecting with others. People shouldn’t be looking for an easy “A”, so to speak. If that’s what they’re doing, why are they even blogging?
Also, I’ve lurked for a long time, so hi! :-)
.-= I Have Two Dogs & Love Wine´s last blog ..Looking Forward =-.
I agree with what LL said. You did write a good post here and you linked my post, which is pretty controversial with these people who don’t even know me or read my blog insulting me and calling me as a hater to bloggers like you and Erin.
While the fact is I do read and comment both of you, and many more. Sincerely. As for the fact I comment on many profiles on new 20sb members? I’m on membership team, it’s in my desk job. What am I supposed to do?
I’m not feeling like responding to such blatant judgments like that since I’ve messaged you personally on how the idea of my post, is simply wanting variations and to act on it. Brutal for some people, but that’s just me. Blunt. These people who comment saying they agree with me, they don’t hate on bloggers, a lot of them aren’t even new bloggers and have massive readers. They do know how the system works. Our points are variations and these people attacking us and talking like we’re new at this, like we feel excluded or we feel like we want more followers or something? Not true and not our point.
I like some bloggers, I want them to be featured for their uniqueness. That’s all. All in generalization and the fact that some people are offended without asking me first and bashing me personally for a general opinion I throw is ridiculous.
Andhari – For what it’s worth, I linked to your post and to the others as examples of the debate that’s going on inside the community. This post is not a response to yours, or any other. I’m not implying that you want more followers. What I’m trying to do is take a look at what’s being said and shift the debate from this accusatory tone to one where we look at how people can get a more rewarding community experience and more readily find people who are ready to engage and be active not just on 20SB but also on other blogs. It might not be a challenge for you, but I know just from my own experience it’s a very real challenge for a lot of people.
This was fantastic, Kyla. I’ve been a 20sb member for almost two years now, but I haven’t been active in the community recently. There are so many sects in this blogging world and I’ve seemed to stray more towards the so-called “mommy-bloggers.” In my situation, there are occasions I can relate to them better.
While I am not active on 20sb and admit I didn’t nominate people, I feel that there is sometimes a hierarchy. Not clique-y. But I personally have had my feelings hurt by effort I’ve put into making connections, only to have no reciprocation. When I first joined 20sb, I had several members adding me as friends on twitter. I followed in return, of course, and engaged in conversation with them, replied to their tweets and didn’t mind that they didn’t return the reply. People are busy, I get it. But then, when I’m unfollowed and my thoughtful comments on their blogs (for years) go unnoticed, I feel a little…confused. I don’t need the comments on my blog, but I feel like so much of 20sb is conversation between members and when I put in that much effort with no response…it just bites a bit. (I’m not talking about YOU, don’t misunderstand! Ha, I’ve been a LONG-TIME LURKER!) This is why I took a year hiatus from 20sb and focused on my mommy bloggers, because I felt more welcomed there.
The people who were nominated absolutely deserve the noms. I’ve read several of those blogs for years and they are each absolutely excellent at what their nomination category implies. And it’s entirely possible that I feel differently than several people, I just think there should be a little more communication. I don’t expect replies to every @reply or every comment or even every email. I don’t do that, myself. But I do appreciate those people and try my best to respond as often as possible, to thank them, to let them know how appreciative I am of their thoughts. They are the people that keep me blogging, that inspire me.
That’s just my VERY LONG WINDED thought.
.-= barbetti´s last blog ..A Year in Review – Photos =-.
This is a great post (duh!). The 20SB community is the second community I have joined since I started blogging in 2005. I started off as a diabetes blogger. I am, as they say, a popular or influential blogger in that community, although I still never seem to get many comments on my material, but that’s actually fairly common in our group (only a couple bloggers get a ton of comments, so it’s not as big of a deal).
Now I’m trying to also be a 20sb blogger and it’s rough! I feel like I’m starting over and it’s tough to get involved in a group that is already formed – even if the people are really nice. It’s difficult to continue building relationships when, as you said, you are already a “popular” blogger and whatnot.
Anyway, I think you offer a lot of really solid points and hopefully I can become as integrated in the 20sb community as I have with the diabetes community, though I am certain it will take time and energy, just as it did the first time around. But it is oh so totally worth it.
Cheers,
Allison
.-= Allison Blass´s last blog ..Transitions in Review: 2000-2009 =-.
Thank you! This was very helpful, especially since I’m just starting out with blogging and with 20sb.
Thanks for this post! I’ve been a member of 20sb for a few months now but I’ve barely begun to explore the community that’s there ~ mostly because I have no idea where to begin! Your post was very helpful :)
.-= Holly´s last blog ..One Little Word … =-.
I loved this post, Kyla. You always put everything so eloquently and you make some great, great points!
I should probably make my blog design more work-friendly.. Perhaps a chore for 2010 :)
Right on! Great post lady! Life has gotten too busy for me to actively be involved in my blogging but I still check my favorite blogs (especially yours) daily. Happy New Years=)
Kyla, this post is really fantastic and it warms my cold little heart. (Literally cold. 3 cheers for Canada!)
This post made me think about the way I blog and if I should make any changes – it even inspired a freakishly nonsensical and lengthy rant-type post of my own (don’t worry, I linked back to this one! Actually, maybe you should be worried to be associated with my crazed musings, but I linked to you regardless so it can’t be helped :P)
http://monstergirlwrites.blogspot.com/2009/12/monster-girl-and-her-blog-blogging.html
I know it has seemed to me before that in blogging there was this elusive “blogging circle”, I guess, but it’s never felt exclusive – while I’ve often wished I could crack into this lovely circle I do know that I’d consider you on the “in side” and you make an effort to reply to everyone’s comments, check out other blogs and aren’t above other blogs outside this idea of a “group” at all. Because you’re a kind, warm, interesting blogger and not a thirteen year old girl who only wants to sit with her friends at lunch time! I think all the successful blogs I like to follow are written by warm lovely people.
It’s always possible to find blogging friends if you’re being a friend yourself!
.-= Janie´s last blog ..a monster girl and her blog: blogging about blogging =-.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THIS POST.
CLEARS A LOT OF THINGS FOR ME.
I DON’T KNOW WHY I AM WRITING IN BLOCK LETTERS.
Per-fec-tion. As usual. You are so diplomatic and communicate so well, Kyla. Writing is truly your gift, and I love that you take it seriously enough to fight for blogging as a valid outlet, not to mention a community burgeoning with possibility!
.-= Natalie Cottrell´s last blog ..Solitary Confinement {A Throwback Post} =-.
Kyla,
I love this! Thanks so much for taking the time to do this! It is hard for me, as a new blogger, to keep true to myself and start out writing for myself, not an audience. I do really hope to engage my blog, twitter, 20SB, etc in effective ways, and really pour into others lives as they pour into mine.
:)
Thank you so much for writing this, Kyla. You sum up everything so perfectly and with so much class. This post is an amazing guide to how to effectively use 20sb. Thanks for the amazing suggestions.
.-= Jessica´s last blog ..Where In The World Wednesday =-.
Hey, I just joined 20sb and that was some really great advice. Thank you.
.-= Adrienne´s last blog ..Prayer for Brandy =-.
I think this is an excellent post – very fair and well written and smart. However, after reading the other three entries you linked to – I’d like to say I think their points are just as valid as yours.
That’s the thing about having a community based website – everyone gets a share, an opinion and they won’t all be the same. I don’t think any of them are attacking anyone in particular (not even 20sb itself), but rather, they are pointing out some stuff that I noticed from the beginning when I joined 20sb. Some people are more active on the forum than others; some of those people have genuinely great blogs and lots of stuff to say, others not so much, but they comment on every forum post and follow every person they can in hopes they will get followed back. In each of those instances, more attention will be given to that type of networking.
I read a great quote in Memoirs of a Geisha that went something like “people often confuse great things with something they’ve merely heard about.” Meaning that if I am very active on the forum, or on twitter or whatever, chances are good I will garner more attention out of notoriety. On the other hand, I believe in a good product – if you have something to say, say it well and your page is accessible, your product (blog) will set itself apart in time.
Now – having said all that – I think there are a lot of great bloggers on 20sb and I encourage people to check the site out no matter who raves about it or who tears it down. It’s a great forum. It ain’t perfect by any means, but it’s great.
Your blog rocks. :)
.-= L.L.´s last blog ..New Years/Old Conflict =-.
very awesome post! you’ve definitely positioned yourself with sound advice. great guide!! and i agree with ashley.star. there are a lot of things i want to “be” that it all becomes very overwhelming. i’d like to merge it all and have my blog become the hub of everything that i am! :D easier said than done..
.-= floreta´s last blog ..Wanderlust =-.
Great post Kyla:) Kudos to you:)
.-= Cecilie´s last blog ..Close your eyes, sometimes it helps. =-.
So well said. Props to you my dear :)
.-= jenniferalaine´s last blog ..the first i love you. =-.
You’re so sincere, it’s painful, Kyla.
:)
On the topic of this post…This is a bit overwhelming – I feel like a bit of a half-a$$ed blogger lately, if you know what I mean. I want to be a blogger, but I also want to be a photographer, a designer, an Etsy artist, and a wife.
Oh yes, and work 50 hours a week.
Ha.
Someday, I’m totally going to become Superwoman.
.-= ashley.star´s last blog ..On Scary Snow, Growing Up, and Defining Newlywed-ness. =-.
as some1 who has now vowed to become more involved in a community i have been a part of for a year this is sooooo helpful/insightful/brilliant.
yesterday i spent hours on 20sb something i haven’t done since i first signed up all those months ago. i updated my reader with new and exciting people who make me laugh/inspire. and i may not get a lot of traffic to my blog or ever win an award but i don’t mind, i like being part of this community and will now strive to be more actively involved in 2010!
.-= fgrngtllt´s last blog ..a plea:PLEASE READ =-.
Great post. Couldn’t have said it better myself!
.-= Habbala´s last blog ..2009 in Review =-.
your blogs is one of the best that i read. and i really mean that. i love this post for a shit ton of reasons, but one of the top is that you seem so very real and sincere. your authenticity comes out in every single post you write, and that’s what i truly enjoy about your blog.
You never disappoint, miss.
:)
I should have known you’d write such a beautiful, clear post about this situation. Thank you for covering this topic in a way that isn’t at all rude, judgmental or finger-pointy. Lovely!
Also, I was shocked that such a small amount of people actually voted for the nominees of the awards. I’m seriously in awe – and now the entire situation makes sense, you know? Nearly 10,000 members, and only an eensie fraction voted people in. I feel like this is something that should be in capital letters on all of these posts.
.-= wishcake´s last blog ..on the story of wishcake… =-.
Thank you for this. I recently joined 20sb and am trying to get more out there with my blog. It’s hard at first to figure out exactly how to go about it… So I really appreciate this post!
.-= Melissa´s last blog ..A couple of crafts =-.
I’ve never been part of the 20sb (because I’m not in my 20s anymore), but I think what you’ve said here rings true for all blogs in general. You make some really valid points.
Great post Kyla!
.-= Marie´s last blog ..A Smile’s Worth =-.
You are amazing, Kyla. Thanks for putting this out there for all 20sb’s. It’s really difficult when you’re getting started in a community of ~10k. I often try to reply to all of my comments in an email, and that has helped a lot in gaining friendships through 20sb.
.-= Megan´s last blog ..For Brandy =-.
Wow. This is one of the best posts I’ve ever read-so concise and graceful. You have a strong voice without coming off as “rude” at all, as unfortunately, I’ve found some other posts of this nature to be.
I’m on 20sb, but new to your blog, and I will definitely be back.
This post was brilliant and so thoughtful.
.-= Susan´s last blog ..where in the world wednesday: la brea tar pits =-.
EXCELLENT post Kyla. This community is amazing and we have to keep remembering that, especially around the time when these awards come up and the nominations for FB come about.
.-= Ashalah´s last blog ..Where in the World Wednesday: Kutna Hora, Czech Republic =-.
This was probably the BEST post I’ve read about the awards. When I went onto 20SB and looked at the list of nominees, was I a little disappointed my names wasn’t included? OF COURSE! But I knew I wasn’t going to be nominated. I’m not involved in the 20SB community as much as the nominees are, my writing isn’t at the level as some of the nominees, and I’m still fairly new to this blogging thing. And as I checked out the blogs of the nominees, I realized how GREAT some of these bloggers are and they do need to be recognized for their talent!
I’m really sick of the complaint that 20SB is “cliquey” by people who aren’t trying hard enough to become active in this community. I know many people from this so-called 20SB clique and they are some of the funniest, warmest, and most delightful people I have ever “met”.
This post was fantastic.
.-= Stephany´s last blog ..2009: A Year of Mediocrity =-.
I wish someone had wrote this two years ago – I could so have used this knowledge.
So well written!!!
.-= Paulla´s last blog .."WHERE IN THE WORLD WEDNESDAY" AND MY TOP TUNES OF ‘O9 . . . =-.
Couldn’t have said any of this better myself. I’ve been a tad quiet this week when it comes to blogging because, well, I’ve been a bit concerned about all the debates and etc and haven’t been able to clearly express myself about it. But you did it for me =)
Excellent points and dare I say almost a user guide as to how 20SB should be used!?
.-= Nora´s last blog ..New Year, New Name! =-.
Oh wow, I JUST tweeted my New Year’s resolution to get more involved in the blogging COMMUNITY and not just my own little blog in 2010. And then I checked my reader and here is your lovely post :o)
I always feel a little weird writing about “the community” because so many bloggers I read already do, and then I see their posts, nod and say “yup,” and then don’t go off on my own to post my own thoughts because I feel like they’ve already been said a thousand times.
This post says what needs to be said and what really should be reiterated from time to time, because we all lose our focus once in awhile. Thanks, and happy happy new year!
You are a saint for this. I’m sure it took forever to write, as it is so perfectly thorough- but I think it will do wonders to clear everything up. xoxo
.-= LiLu´s last blog ..In Which There Is Absolute Proof I Am NOT Adopted. =-.
This is a fantastic post! Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I’m constantly trying to figure out how to take my blog from just ok to something a bit more exciting. This post is definitely going to help me with that, and to help remind me to be more active on 20sb!
.-= Angela´s last blog ..For Brandy =-.
Great advice that I too need to follow a little more closely. I read too many blogs and put too little time into each blog. But I am working on changing that, I would like to get to know people better.
.-= Karen´s last blog ..A very special guest post =-.
Fantastic and insightful post on something I’ve always sort of wondered about, thank you!
.-= Teresa Wu´s last blog ..Life Lessons 2009 =-.
Too bad I was already 30 when I started my blog. ;-)
.-= Little Fish´s last blog ..Because Every Good Thought Helps =-.
It amazes me how you handle everything with grace and class. To me you rock and I voted for you in every category! xo
I love this. I think you did a great job of providing real solutions to those who might be dissatisfied, acknowledging how it makes YOU feel, but not dismissing their feelings either. I know it can be hard to hear those critical of a community we love (and I do love it too, even though I’ve been fairly inactive since first joining…so much other internet stuff going on!), but at the same time…if people feel that way there’s got to be a shred of truth in it and *constructive* criticism can only make the community better. Please note the “constructive” part :)
I don’t comment much, but I’ve been reading you for awhile on and off!
.-= Amanda´s last blog ..sloth =-.
Kyla,
Just discovered your blog on (shocker!) 20SB. Love this post. It was really helpful and quite insightful.
Check out my blog if you have some time :) I think you might like!
M
.-= Meghan´s last blog ..One year, one love: New York =-.
BAM. POW. KA-BOOM. (I like sound effects ok?)
Kyla, THANK YOU so much for writing this. This insight is so well-stated and so valuable to new and veteran bloggers. I adore this little community and can’t imagine my life without some of the friends I’ve made here.
A couple of things I do that’s helped me in terms of building new relationships is spending some time with my new readers. Naturally you won’t ‘braid hair with’ :) every single reader but as soon as I see new comments from new or first-time commenters, if they have a blog I immediately add them to my Reader in a category specifically for new readers. Then I spend time checking out what they’re doing. And new relationships happen. And I get all warm and fuzzy inside because I love relationships and learning from people and all of that
I haven’t been at a proper computer since Sunday night so I haven’t been able to address all this I’ve still been reading and following this week. You nailed just about everything I’ve been thinking only ten times better than I could have.
Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. This community ROCKS. And I love it.
Agree with it all. I think you need to write a social networking book; you’ve got it all under control in a very realistic way.
p.s. LOVE the new look over here and your blogroll is totally adorable. :) I have lots of reading to do! We’re in norcal though; if I was in socal my lack of a tan would be for SHAME! hehe!
.-= Steph´s last blog ..Embracing 2010 and all it holds for my 25 year old self =-.
Thanks for posting this!
I’ve been teetering on my involvement in 20sb. I love the folks I’ve met thus far, and am constantly amazed by some of the things some of the members are doing.
Through my own post I’ve just really been floored by these bloggers. We all want to celebrate our community, to continually recognize people. And we all agree that to reap the rewards you’ve got to invest in the community. Though I may have not been so sure about what responses I was going to get at first, I’m glad I wrote that post because I was able to (e)meet a lot of amazing bloggers. :) (Which I just see as another sign of 20sb’s awesomeness.)
.-= Erini´s last blog ..2009: What a year. =-.
you are SUCH a rockstar for writing this.
.-= kori´s last blog ..trashcan tuesday (cranky on the bolt bus edition) =-.
Hi Kyla! I’ve been in and out of your blog for a few months, checking in and loving your writing =)
I discovered you on 20SB, so I know just how powerful a tool it can be. I am a semi-new member (I joined in the summer) and I have gotten out everything I put in. I like that little community and I agree with everything you’ve written here. I am a little disheartened that at this age people continue to have “popularity” or “clique” issues, even though they technically don’t exist.
Hope you have a wonderful new years =)
This is a great post.
You only get out of something, what you put into it. Even though I’m not well known within the 20SB community, I am so happy and proud to be a part of it. I hope more people will use this advice and become more active in it.
This. Post. Is. Brill.
I agree 100%.
I’ll add one last thing, which I know you agree with, too:
Being fake is probably a waste of your time.
Don’t comment on people’s blogs just because you want them to comment on yours. Don’t compliment people just because you want a compliment back. Just be real, babies. It’s that simple.
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Thank you so much for posting this! As I’m definitely new to blogging and 20sb, this is exactly the type of thing I like to know and understand. :)
.-= Brittany´s last blog ..and i’m like, why are you so obsessed with me? =-.
Bam, Pow, I am totally with Brandy and Ben. I was never even part of the 20sb community but do have relationships with lots of people within the community.
You are awesome. And you are consistently able to turn a negative situation into a positive one. You rock!
I am one of those 20SB that created a profile when I first started and have never been back. I totally agree with you – if someone wants to complain about it, they really should have a decent amount of information and be active first!
That was pretty good. I got burned out from 20SB back in the summer because I thought it was too cliquey, and all the popular bloggers were too busy writing about drinking and screwing instead of really good stories. I think there’s a hint of truth to that, but mostly I was actually kind of jealous. I spent too much time bitching and not enough time finding people I could learn from.
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Love this post. A very useful tool for new bloggers!
.-= Liz´s last blog ..You’ll be positive though it hurts. =-.
This is absolutely wonderful. The genuine helpfulness is such a refreshing response to everything.
Also? I’m adoring your blog layout. It’s so crisp and tidy and organized (and I love me some organization).
.-= Cait´s last blog ..my thoughts on the award backlash. =-.
Great post Kyla! I think that 20SB can seem really overwhelming when you first join, but these are excellent tips to help people make really good use of the community. I can absolutely vouch for the fact that if you reach out to the “popular” bloggers, you will find that they are just as eager to make new friends and will welcome you with open arms :).
.-= Mary´s last blog ..On Being a “Writer” =-.
K, great stuff. I just hope that more people offer suggestions and solutions to help us improve, because that’s what we’re really interested in doing.
As always, if anyone has questions or concerns, they can email anyone on the 20SB Team. I’m at derek AT 20SB.net.
I’ve been a member of 20SB for over a year but I’ve had trouble getting very involved in it. I’ve made one or two good blogger friends and I’ve had a great experience with them, but I’d like to get to know more people in the community – I really appreciate this post, there’s some great advice in there.
I fully second Rachel’s desire to hug you.
I am still fairly new to blogging in general and 20SB in specific, having been around since late 2008. That said, I have found a number of great reads and of great friends as I became more and more active on the site.
I know I need to learn more about web design so my blog is more “me” than the generic themes of WPress but it’s a work in progress.
Thank you for this.
.-= Kendall´s last blog ..What I Know Now: A Letter to Myself (The Sequel) =-.
um, YES! exactly and so forth! right on the money as per yooj. :)
Thanks Kyla!
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Thanks for that, Kyla!
And I’m totally loving the new layout.
.-= Maddy´s last blog ..Real Snowflakes This Time! =-.
I’m looking at Ben’s ‘BAM’ and am going to raise it up to a full-fledged “POW!”.
In other words? You nailed it.
.-= brandy´s last blog ..Love Harder =-.
awesome post.. you rock. :)
.-= little miss obsessive´s last blog ..Five Hundred Twenty-Five Thousand Six Hundred Minutes =-.
Great post Kyla!!
.-= Matt´s last blog ..Dont come after me with a pitchfork or burn down my house after reading =-.
BAM.
.-= Ben´s last blog ..How to: Create a running holiday gag =-.
This was great Kyla. You said it all better than I could have so thank you!
.-= Jamie´s last blog ..see yaaa 2009 =-.
can i hug you for this? really. it was amazing. you are amazing and thank goodness for 20sb. love you!